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    Quote Originally Posted by micrapolis View Post
    how much heavier is this car than our micra?

    i cant believe they just bumped the power/torque by like 10% when im sure its way heavier than 10%
    Wiki says...

    Brazilian: 1,109 kg-1,136 kg (2.444 lb-2504 lb)
    Chinese: 1,122 kg-1,164 kg (2.473 lb-2566 lb)
    Ours will probably weigh a little more than these models (probably will come with more airbags and crash structure).

    UPDATE July 11: Nissan Canada says Kicks S = 1,197 kg (2639 lbs), SV = 1,204 (2654)

    Considering the heaviest Micra is 2407 lbs / 1092 kg, the power:weight ratio of the Kicks may actually be a little better:

    -- Kicks has 15% more power than SR Micra automatic
    -- Kicks SV weighs 10% more than SR Micra auto.

    But it comes with the rubber band transmission only, so it will feel slower and the engine drone will drive you nuts when you step on it.


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    For fun, let's compare dimensions to the Micra:

    MICRA
    mm (in.)
    KICKS
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    Overall length 3,827 (150.7) 4,295 (169.1 in.)
    Overall width 1,460 (57.5) 1,760 (69.3 in.)
    Overall height 1,527 (60.1)
    1,586 (62.4 in.) incl. roof rails
    Wheelbase 2,450 (96.5)
    2,620 (103.1 in.)
    Track width (front) 1,460 (57.5)
    1,520 (59.8 in.)
    Track width (rear) 1,465 (57.7)
    1,535 (60.4 in.)

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Micra S manual: 5.0 L/100 km ... 56.5 mpg (Imp) ... 20.0 km/L ... 47.0 mpg (US) ...


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    I took a look under the hood of the only Kicks on the lot here the other day when I was at the dealer.

    The intake manifold is much different, even from the other Kicks engine bay pictures online. It doesn't wrap around the valve cover. Throttle body *may* be different but I didn't get a good enough look/comparison and the intake is larger, it actually goes over the radiator exactly where my custom intake does.

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    Your pics make it look like it's missing a plastic engine cover to hide all the spaghetti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
    Your pics make it look like it's missing a plastic engine cover to hide all the spaghetti.
    It is

    The dealer said it was an error at the factory..

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    Quote Originally Posted by micrapolis View Post
    how much heavier is this car than our micra?

    i cant believe they just bumped the power/torque by like 10% when im sure its way heavier than 10%
    spacewolf here on the forums and I have made some threads already about the Kicks. His theory after looking at some on the dealer lot is that it gets that increase from it's larger throttle body, intake, and the CVT/possibly the tune associated with that CVT. Who knows if it actually has this much of an increase on the dyno, or if they are just allowed to market that horsepower based on tricks in the current testing standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABMicra17 View Post
    I am not sure what to think about this. With little HP and TQ, I agree with the poster that brought up Mitsubishi Mirage. I think that with more weight, the engine is going to have to work harder and going to be louder. I'm sure that people will buy it if the gas mileage is good and they don't have to go to a bigger vehicle. Is it going to be cheap like the Micra(price) I highly doubt it. Oh no manual, that sucks!
    Starting at $17,998 for the S trim. SV is where all the goodies like heated seats, Apple/Android, alloy rims, and intelligence features come in at $20,898.

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    curb weight & fuel economy vs. Micra

    Update with curb weight & fuel economy...

    CURB WEIGHT: Nissan Canada's site says Kicks S = 1,197 kg (2639 lbs), SV = 1,204 (2654)

    Considering the heaviest Micra is 2407 lbs / 1092 kg, the power:weight ratio of the Kicks is a little better:

    -- Kicks has 15% more power than SR Micra automatic
    -- Kicks SV weighs 10% more than SR Micra auto.

    Kicks FUEL ECONOMY:


    • 7.7 city / 6.6 highway


    Vs. Micra:


    • 8.7 / 6.8 (manual transmission)
    • 8.9 / 6.8 (automatic)

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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Micra S manual: 5.0 L/100 km ... 56.5 mpg (Imp) ... 20.0 km/L ... 47.0 mpg (US) ...


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    So the Kicks on paper is more fuel efficient than the Micra? This can't be real.

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    The Kicks has a CVT. I'm not very surprised it rates better than the Micra's slushbox 4-speed.

    Manual Micra drivers will still be able to beat the Kicks though, because the manual's fuel economy rating is easy to beat by a wide margin with simple eco-driving methods.


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        click to view fuel log View my fuel log 2015 Micra S manual: 5.0 L/100 km ... 56.5 mpg (Imp) ... 20.0 km/L ... 47.0 mpg (US) ...


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