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    Saw this on ebay, can only wish could engine swap it without all the crazy costs of bigger brakes and such hehe

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/282387302638

    Pulsar SSS MR16 1.6 Turbo 190HP



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    Quote Originally Posted by nephy View Post
    Saw this on ebay, can only wish could engine swap it without all the crazy costs of bigger brakes and such hehe

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/282387302638

    Pulsar SSS MR16 1.6 Turbo 190HP
    You dont need to go to Australia via eBay to get the engine.
    Car-parts.com is a car yard site and you can source a juke engine and tranny.
    I believe it's about $2500 of a decent eng/trans with turbo and all the fixings
    You need a support welded on the the passenger side strut tower and the rest is mechanic wizardry.
    But yes ... turbo vs swap .. monetarily it's makes more sense to just get a swap. Then to spend the same
    On a turbo and only get 170 unreliable donkeys or basically and lighter mini juke ( same chassis and general shape )
    Mijukecra

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    Thought this would be an appropriate thread to share this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ysVYx97xo



    http://www.mvspreparacoes.com.br/?p=...%20Turbo/Fase1

    Looks like a turbocharged k13 in Brazil and appears to have untouched internals. Just a bolton custom turbo kit.

    Their dyno results:
    206whp @6200RPM
    193lb-ft @4200RPM

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacewolf View Post
    Thought this would be an appropriate thread to share this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ysVYx97xo



    http://www.mvspreparacoes.com.br/?p=...%20Turbo/Fase1

    Looks like a turbocharged k13 in Brazil and appears to have untouched internals. Just a bolton custom turbo kit.

    Their dyno results:
    206whp @6200RPM
    193lb-ft @4200RPM

    Yeah; that's one of the special edition cars made for the Rio Olympic games. That little orange tag on the grill should have a serial number on it indicating which of the 1000 cars it is. Nissan was one of the sponsors. Now it's even more special.

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    I wonder how much abuse the stock internals can take with that setup before it goes pop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacewolf View Post
    Thought this would be an appropriate thread to share this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ysVYx97xo



    http://www.mvspreparacoes.com.br/?p=...%20Turbo/Fase1

    Looks like a turbocharged k13 in Brazil and appears to have untouched internals. Just a bolton custom turbo kit.

    Their dyno results:
    206whp @6200RPM
    193lb-ft @4200RPM

    No.
    That's a simulated crank horse power. It's using an adjustment table

    If that were true, crank hp would be 230hp an 218tq.

    If simulated crank. Wheel hp would be 181.5hp 168tq

    The transmission is rated for 171 ft lbs

    There base started at 130.3hp and 124.4ft lbs.
    from a k&n filter.

    We know from Injen oem vs aftermarket dyno the drive train power loss is about 15-17%crank to wheel.

    stock 94hp/93tq >injen 98hp/97tq

    They did increase cv by 77.2 or 76hp and kg/m 9.5 or 68.7ft-lbs

    Math backs it up:

    207hp x 11.5afr (.55bscf/60) 21.82 - 14.7 =7.12 (.49bar) they used .51bar that difference is altitude

    207-15%/193-15%

    176hp/164tq wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacewolf View Post
    I wonder how much abuse the stock internals can take with that setup before it goes pop!
    Trans is roughly 177-197 ft lbs based on the cousin TL4/TL8 Renault trans
    There is a 160ps micra with stock internals plus cams
    It states online somewhere the max output before reliability suffers is 150HP

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    If you look at pull 1/2/3

    3 is the "big number pull"

    Around 5k rpm tq is locked at 25kg/m

    I should be tuned to hit 25 fast and hold as long as possible ( 6000+rpm )

    It detunes in the 3rd pull from peak because of timing needed to retard knock.

    It climbs again after torque declines because less knock inhibited.

    If I was tuning this car I would increase the octane rating so I can increase timing an hold 25kg/m

    25kg/m is 180 crank ft-lbs 153at the wheel.

    I believe the "1st" pull is the refined tune and the "3rd pull" is the "auto tune" max torque before knock run.


    The dyno chart in the middle is the "1st pull" 188cv > 186crank hp / 24.3kg/m > 175 crank tq
    With a linear tq/hp line. ( 158 wheel hp / 149 wheel Tq ) seems legit now right?!?

    This is a common thing in car scene, using certain units of measurement and different dyno modes to produce inflated results

    For comparison the Greek turbo kit produced 149 crank ( sim ) 101 wheel hp with 146 ft lbs @ .3bar or 5 psi.

    This is at .5 bar or 7 and a bit psi ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPUL View Post
    Trans is roughly 177-197 ft lbs based on the cousin TL4/TL8 Renault trans
    There is a 160ps micra with stock internals plus cams
    It states online somewhere the max output before reliability suffers is 150HP
    I thought that documentation for the comparable renault transmission was rated at 160lb-ft presumably at the crank. I haven't looked at it in a while though.



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